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Message started by Ice-P on Jan 6th, 2009 at 8:27am

Title: Vicious dog
Post by Ice-P on Jan 6th, 2009 at 8:27am
I'm having some problems with a new Pit Bull Terrier- I rang the vet for some advice. I explained he was brown, stupid, aggressive and liable to attack anyone for no good reason.

The vet replied " Muzzle 'im? "

No, I said- I think he's an atheist

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by NataS on Feb 16th, 2009 at 5:04pm

Ice-P wrote on Jan 6th, 2009 at 8:27am:
I'm having some problems with a new Pit Bull Terrier- I rang the vet for some advice. I explained he was brown, stupid, aggressive and liable to attack anyone for no good reason.

The vet replied " Muzzle 'im? "

No, I said- I think he's an atheist


You think implying that Muslims are brown, stupid, aggressive, and violent  is funny?   Hmmm..  In the next breath, you'll probably call yourself Christian.

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by Ice-P on Feb 17th, 2009 at 9:47am
You read into it whatever you want to, Bub.  It's called a pun, get a sense of humor.  

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by still_here on Feb 17th, 2009 at 10:52am

NataS wrote on Feb 16th, 2009 at 5:04pm:

Ice-P wrote on Jan 6th, 2009 at 8:27am:
I'm having some problems with a new Pit Bull Terrier- I rang the vet for some advice. I explained he was brown, stupid, aggressive and liable to attack anyone for no good reason.

The vet replied " Muzzle 'im? "

No, I said- I think he's an atheist


You think implying that Muslims are brown, stupid, aggressive, and violent  is funny?   Hmmm..  In the next breath, you'll probably call yourself Christian.



Ice-P is known for his flat sense of humor.  I've never known him to put anyone down on this board with the exception of politicians.  The problem with America today is that it so politically correct many are afraid to tell a joke.  BTW how do you know Ice-P isn't a brown, stupid, aggressive, and violent  Muslim?  ::)

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by NataS on Feb 17th, 2009 at 11:03am

Ice-P wrote on Feb 17th, 2009 at 9:47am:
You read into it whatever you want to, Bub.  It's called a pun, get a sense of humor.  



Actually, it's not a pun. it's malapropism

By definition, puns must be deliberate; an involuntary substitution of similar words is called a malapropism

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And it's still not funny.

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by Ice-P on Feb 17th, 2009 at 11:52am
Don't read any of my replies or topics then.  Simple.  Just hate me.

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by NataS on Feb 17th, 2009 at 11:53am
I don't hate you... or anyone for that matter.  Just don't think the joke was funny.  That's my opinion.

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by turnipgreens on Feb 17th, 2009 at 1:00pm

Ice-P wrote on Jan 6th, 2009 at 8:27am:
I'm having some problems with a new Pit Bull Terrier- I rang the vet for some advice. I explained he was brown, stupid, aggressive and liable to attack anyone for no good reason.

The vet replied " Muzzle 'im? "

No, I said- I think he's an atheist

Hell, I thought it was funny.  Even if Ice pick is brown stupid and agressive! :o

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by NataS on Feb 17th, 2009 at 3:03pm
What, exactly, is funny about poking fun of people of the Muslim faith?

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by still_here on Feb 17th, 2009 at 3:23pm

Ice-P wrote on Jan 6th, 2009 at 8:27am:
I'm having some problems with a new Pit Bull Terrier- I rang the vet for some advice. I explained he was brown, stupid, aggressive and liable to attack anyone for no good reason.

The vet replied " Muzzle 'im? "

No, I said- I think he's an atheist




NataS wrote on Feb 17th, 2009 at 3:03pm:
What, exactly, is funny about poking fun of people of the Muslim faith?



I took it the man was so stupid & hard of hearing he misunderstood the vet.  ;D

You took it that the vet was poking fun at Muslims?  >:(  

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by still_here on Feb 17th, 2009 at 3:27pm

turnipgreens wrote on Feb 17th, 2009 at 1:00pm:

Ice-P wrote on Jan 6th, 2009 at 8:27am:
I'm having some problems with a new Pit Bull Terrier- I rang the vet for some advice. I explained he was brown, stupid, aggressive and liable to attack anyone for no good reason.

The vet replied " Muzzle 'im? "

No, I said- I think he's an atheist

Hell, I thought it was funny.  Even if Ice pick is brown stupid and agressive! :o


Ditto!  :D

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by NataS on Feb 17th, 2009 at 3:43pm

still_here wrote on Feb 17th, 2009 at 3:23pm:
I took it the man was so stupid & hard of hearing he misunderstood the vet.  ;D

You took it that the vet was poking fun at Muslims?  >:(  


No, the context of the joke (i.e. not me) implies that Muslims are violent, stupid, and aggressive.   The fact that someone such as yourself would think that repeating such a joke (which isn't even funny at all even in the context you understand)  is acceptable is truly sad in this era.

ETA:

The fact that nobody replied to your joke to say how funny it was until a month later (after my criticism) speaks volumes.

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by Ice-P on Feb 17th, 2009 at 5:52pm
I think it implies that atheists are brown, stupid and aggressive.  I apologize to all the atheists and hope God blesses them.

[smiley=rolleyes.gif]

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by NataS on Feb 17th, 2009 at 6:12pm
The really funny thing is that the Muslims I know, (if you told that joke in their presence) would feel sorry for your ignorance of their religion.  These same Muslims are well versed in the Christian tenets and do not believe all Christians to be violent even though members of the Christian community have fought wars under the pretense that God was on their side.  Didn't Jesus teach peace and understanding and brotherhood?  I'll have to read the Bible again.

I myself fall into the Atheist category and while I appreciate your prayers, did not feel insulted by the joke, just saddened that you feel the need to repeat it, then defend it through sarcasm.

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by turnipgreens on Feb 17th, 2009 at 6:22pm
My sincerest apologies, Ice P, I was only JOKING.  I don't really think you are brown, stupid and aggressive.

It was all a joke, and I took it in the context with which you meant the joke and I hope you know I was joking with you when I said you were brown stupid and aggressive.

this is getting silly......and ridiculous




Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by turnipgreens on Feb 17th, 2009 at 6:26pm

Ice-P wrote on Feb 17th, 2009 at 9:47am:
You read into it whatever you want to, Bub.  It's called a pun, get a sense of humor.  


ditto and double ditto

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by NataS on Feb 17th, 2009 at 6:37pm

turnipgreens wrote on Feb 17th, 2009 at 6:26pm:

Ice-P wrote on Feb 17th, 2009 at 9:47am:
You read into it whatever you want to, Bub.  It's called a pun, get a sense of humor.  


ditto and double ditto


I see you ran out of original ideas turnipgreens.   But I digress.  

I am glad my sense of respect for others outweighs my sense of humor.  I got out of high school a long time ago.

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by turnipgreens on Feb 17th, 2009 at 7:09pm
Gee, what a kind and respectful thing to say.  Thank you for the wonderful compliment, knat.

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by NataS on Feb 17th, 2009 at 8:10pm
I see that you, however, still have a high school mentality.  I won't go down that road with you.  It's awfully sad that a person has to argue the merits of not being disrespectful of others.  Maybe this microcosm you guys have here is very indicative of the problem Cairo City faces.

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by still_here on Feb 17th, 2009 at 10:35pm
No we just don't believe you have to be politically correct all the time on this board.  So around here the Irish tell jokes about the Polish.  The Catholics are made the blunt of jokes by the Protestants. The Jews make fun of everyone.  I laugh at the black comedian jokes on HBO about white men & women.  We have the intelligence to know when someone is telling a joke around here.  Since you are new you are not aware that we have member on here made up of Jews, Catholics, Protestants, Polish, Irish etc...  true no one has admitted to being a Muslim but can you blame them?  ;D joke, sorry but couldn't let that one by.  :D

Jokes are not being disrespectful of others unless you don't have a sense of humor.  Didn't you ever watch "The Jefferson's" growing up?


Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by NataS on Feb 17th, 2009 at 10:50pm

still_here wrote on Feb 17th, 2009 at 10:35pm:
No we just don't believe you have to be politically correct all the time on this board.


It's not about being politically correct.  It's about respect.  I respect different religions, races, genders, castes, etc.  enough not to make disparaging remarks (even if they take the form of a "joke").


 
still_here wrote on Feb 17th, 2009 at 10:35pm:
We have the intelligence to know when someone is telling a joke around here.
I also took note that is was meant to be a joke.... a very distasteful one.


still_here wrote on Feb 17th, 2009 at 10:35pm:
 Since you are new you are not aware that we have member on here made up of Jews, Catholics, Protestants, Polish, Irish etc...  

Funny how "Christians" of all races are so hypocritical , huh?


still_here wrote on Feb 17th, 2009 at 10:35pm:
 Didn't you ever watch "The Jefferson's" growing up?


No.

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by still_here on Feb 17th, 2009 at 10:55pm
In that case I'll warn ya to stay out of Stoogeville!  ;D :D ;D ::) :-X

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by missing-cairo on Feb 18th, 2009 at 2:35pm

NataS wrote on Feb 17th, 2009 at 11:03am:

Ice-P wrote on Feb 17th, 2009 at 9:47am:
You read into it whatever you want to, Bub.  It's called a pun, get a sense of humor.  



Actually, it's not a pun. it's malapropism

By definition, puns must be deliberate; an involuntary substitution of similar words is called a malapropism

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And it's still not funny.



Excuse us.  you don't think that Ice-P's joke was deliberate?      

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by NataS on Feb 18th, 2009 at 2:44pm

LunaLady wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 2:35pm:
Excuse us.  you don't think that Ice-P's joke was deliberate?      


deliberate, yes,  funny, no.  

That's not at all what my previous post tried (in very simple terms) to explain.  Sorry I don't have the time to educate you.

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by missing-cairo on Feb 18th, 2009 at 2:55pm

NataS wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 2:44pm:

LunaLady wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 2:35pm:
Excuse us.  you don't think that Ice-P's joke was deliberate?      


deliberate, yes,  funny, no.  

That's not at all what my previous post tried (in very simple terms) to explain.  Sorry I don't have the time to educate you.


While most people don't rely on Wikipedia because it can be posted to by anyone, I find  their definition for pun IS quite a good one.   There is also an interesting discussion that can be accessed by one of the links you will find there.

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Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by NataS on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:02pm

LunaLady wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 2:55pm:
While most people don't rely on Wikipedia because it can be posted to by anyone, I find  their definition for pun IS quite a good one.   There is also an interesting discussion that can be accessed by one of the links you will find there.

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from your own link:

"By definition, puns must be deliberate; an involuntary substitution of similar words is called a malapropism."

lol

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by missing-cairo on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:05pm

NataS wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:02pm:

LunaLady wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 2:55pm:
While most people don't rely on Wikipedia because it can be posted to by anyone, I find  their definition for pun IS quite a good one.   There is also an interesting discussion that can be accessed by one of the links you will find there.

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from your own link:

"By definition, puns must be deliberate; an involuntary substitution of similar words is called a malapropism."

lol


As I said previously...do you think it wasn't deliberate?  
It's been fun providing you with your idea of entertainment, but now I must say " Good  Afternoon."

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by NataS on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:07pm
But this is not the reason at all why I commented on the joke in the first place.  If people don't understand that making fun of another group, whether religious, racial, ethnic, gender, etc....is wrong,  then I don't think any further discussion here will help.  

This is something I was taught from a very young age.  It seems if you haven't learned it by now,  you never will.  That is all I have to say about any of this.  You guys can have the last word.

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by deckhand on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:39pm
I really wanted to stay out of this thread-- and let you have the last word, Natas--but I can't help responding.

I too was brought up to respect others...others' religions, nationalities, races, social classes.

But I am also a product of my generation, the "Is nothing sacred?" National Lampoon and SNL one.

I laughed at the joke at first (Sorry Ice, it's losing it's punch now!) because I believe for humor to be funny, it has to have an element of truth to it.

And like it or not, since 911 Muslims are being perceived as "attacking" everyone.  Of course it's the radical Islamists that hold this idea of Jihad, or holy war...but it's just rubbing off on every Muslim, just the same.  And that's a shame. My children are best friends (truly, not trying to blow smoke) with a Muslim sister and brother.  I've always treated these kids with respect, like they're one of my own.  Once I served them red beans and rice, and the boy asked if there was pork in it.  I told him no. (I'm a quasi-vegetarian and had cooked it with turkey sausage.)  But I explained that my husband's relatives are Jewish and to them pork is also forbidden.  You could see in this kid's eyes a bond forming between us because I took the time to hear about his religion.

Makes me think of the story my husband always tells, of eating a hot dog on Good Friday.  He caught it both ways: from his daddy for eating a hot dog, and from his mama for eating meat on Good Friday.

Another time one of my son's friends, a Mormon, was over playing video games.  Another friend of my son's (a born-again Christian) showed up and the topic of religion came up.  (This was during the GOP primary when Mitt Romney, a Mormon, was running and being attacked by some in his party for not being a "true Christian.") Well,  by the end of their conversation, misconceptions about the Mormon religion were cleared up and the two guys came to respect each other's differences--and similarities in their belief in God.

Look, I don't profess to have all the answers.  I'll just leave it all up to a Higher Power and hope everything comes out in the wash.


Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by missing-cairo on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:44pm

NataS wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:07pm:
But this is not the reason at all why I commented on the joke in the first place.  If people don't understand that making fun of another group, whether religious, racial, ethnic, gender, etc....is wrong,  then I don't think any further discussion here will help.  

This is something I was taught from a very young age.  It seems if you haven't learned it by now,  you never will.  That is all I have to say about any of this.  You guys can have the last word.


Jeff,  when it is okay for one group to make fun of another but not vice versa then there is a problem.   When everyone can laugh at themselves or with others then the world is a better place.    I've long been the butt of jokes...too tall, four-eved, too-big, even too skinny.   Too smart, too dumb, too backwoods, too citified.    It would be wonderful if the whole world could take a page out of the Cajun "coon-ass" book and learn to truly make lemonade.  One thing living in Louisiana has taught me is not to take life so seriously.

Modified to add:      And after reading deckhand's post,  I have to add, I agree that we must learn to understand one another's differences; however, history and the Jewish  and Irish comedians (both being groups that were looked down on and disparaged) have also taught that humor is a great unifier..and they held noone and nothing sacred.

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by deckhand on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:55pm

LunaLady wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:44pm:

NataS wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:07pm:
But this is not the reason at all why I commented on the joke in the first place.  If people don't understand that making fun of another group, whether religious, racial, ethnic, gender, etc....is wrong,  then I don't think any further discussion here will help.  

This is something I was taught from a very young age.  It seems if you haven't learned it by now,  you never will.  That is all I have to say about any of this.  You guys can have the last word.


 One thing living in Louisiana has taught me is not to take life so seriously.


Ain't it the truth!  ;) :) ;D

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by still_here on Feb 18th, 2009 at 4:47pm

deckhand wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:55pm:

LunaLady wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:44pm:

NataS wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:07pm:
But this is not the reason at all why I commented on the joke in the first place.  If people don't understand that making fun of another group, whether religious, racial, ethnic, gender, etc....is wrong,  then I don't think any further discussion here will help.  

This is something I was taught from a very young age.  It seems if you haven't learned it by now,  you never will.  That is all I have to say about any of this.  You guys can have the last word.


 One thing living in Louisiana has taught me is not to take life so seriously.


Ain't it the truth!  ;) :) ;D



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Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by deckhand on Feb 18th, 2009 at 6:48pm
Is that Smutley?  Gawd, I loved Smutley...

You're too much, Still.  From too cute icons to Smutley...

Thanks.  ;D

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by still_here on Feb 19th, 2009 at 12:02pm

deckhand wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 6:48pm:
Is that Smutley?  Gawd, I loved Smutley...

You're too much, Still.  From too cute icons to Smutley...

Thanks.  ;D



Madasher has struck again & disarmed it.   :P

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by deckhand on Feb 19th, 2009 at 12:16pm
Mutley's gone?  :'(

Why?  What harm was he doing to anyone?

Could it be because he was a dog, and this thread reads "Vicious Dog"?  

I know Madasher doesn't want anything provacative on here, like that C & W guy singing about women's upper body parts...you know the one Ice posted a while back and Madasher took down?

But certainly Mutley wasn't offensive to anyone... >:(

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by deckhand on Feb 19th, 2009 at 12:18pm
Alright now it's clear.  Just read your explanation on the "Bigotry" thread, Still Here.

Thanks.

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by still_here on Feb 19th, 2009 at 5:51pm

deckhand wrote on Feb 19th, 2009 at 12:16pm:
Smutley's gone?  :'(

Why?  What harm was he doing to anyone?

Could it be because he was a dog, and this thread reads "Vicious Dog"?  

I know Madasher doesn't want anything provacative on here, like that C & W guy singing about women's upper body parts...you know the one Ice posted a while back and Madasher took down?

But certainly Smutley wasn't offensive to anyone... >:(



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Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by PEABODY on Feb 19th, 2009 at 7:12pm

still_here wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 4:47pm:

deckhand wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:55pm:

LunaLady wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:44pm:

NataS wrote on Feb 18th, 2009 at 3:07pm:
But this is not the reason at all why I commented on the joke in the first place.  If people don't understand that making fun of another group, whether religious, racial, ethnic, gender, etc....is wrong,  then I don't think any further discussion here will help.  

This is something I was taught from a very young age.  It seems if you haven't learned it by now,  you never will.  That is all I have to say about any of this.  You guys can have the last word.


 One thing living in Louisiana has taught me is not to take life so seriously.


Ain't it the truth!  ;) :) ;D



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dont know,,,,but who or what is it?

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by still_here on Feb 19th, 2009 at 9:21pm
Peabody you're old enough to remember Mutley! D-ick dastardly and Mutley and Penelope Pitstop are classic cartoon characters. A motley band of racers race their assortment of cars, planes, tanks and rock cars across an assortment of landscapes. Characters include Penelope Pitstop, Peter Perfect, The Anthill Mob (a group of midget gangsters), Prof. Pat Pending, The Slag Brothers and Dick Dastardly & Mutley.

D-ick Dastardly is always yelling at Mutley "Do Something" & Mutley laughs.

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by deckhand on Feb 20th, 2009 at 12:18pm

deckhand wrote on Feb 20th, 2009 at 11:59am:
Mutley...yeah that was his name.  OOPS!  My ol' brain got confused. *blushes*  About the time that show was first on the air I knew someone with a last name that sounded like "Mutley."  Some of us started calling him "Mutley," and that evolved into "Smutley." Don't ask me why...just being goofy kids I guess.

Cartoon Network in these parts shows "Wacky Races."  Around Christmas time I happened to turn it on and saw on episode.


Still got a chuckle out of it.  :)


Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by Ice-P on Feb 20th, 2009 at 4:07pm
"I know Madasher doesn't want anything provacative on here, like that C & W guy singing about women's upper body parts...you know the one Ice posted a while back and Madasher took down?"


She didn't put that one back.........  She likes Muttley best!!!!!

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by still_here on Feb 20th, 2009 at 5:06pm
What's not to like?  ;D

Title: Re: Vicious dog
Post by Ice-P on Feb 21st, 2009 at 10:22am
Mine was a twofer............

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